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[-]Tom_Bombadil3(+3|0)

Norman Finkelstein is a determined and dedicated individual when it comes to exposing Israeli crimes.

He also says both of his parents were each the lone survivors of their families after the concentration camps.

Come on Norm.

As crazy as the younger generation is... it's nice that they DGAF about what is alleged to have happened in WW2.

Conversely, I don't recall ever meeting any of the Japanese who were imprisoned in the U.S. concentration camps. In fact, I may have read a handful of historical accounts on the subject.

I want to see a concentration camp museum dedicated to the injustice against the Japanese Americans in every major American city for the victims of U.S. concentration camps.

It can't be too difficult to put up some barbed wire, and gas chambers and one or two coal-fire crematoriums.

Where's the outrage? I want to read harrowing tales of a Japanese American who escaped the camps alone, and killed two armed guards in two separate encounters; using two different axes that happened to be available. As is alleged to have occurred in Germany.

I'm much more inclined to believe the improbable tale of an axe wielding Japanese ubermensch.

[-]JasonCarswell
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Yes. I like his passion against the state of Israel.

I'm disappointed in and dislike his perpetuation of some other myths and mainstream bad takes.

George Takei and David Suzuki were in Japanese concentration camps. It's been way over a decade since I watched any documentaries on the matter, likely MSM.

I forget where I heard this, so grains of salt. The UK/Canada/American prisoners of war were treated much worse and murder was preferred to taking expensive prisoners that would be sent back to Canada or the US camps. Germans always were the underdogs, knew they'd be judged after, and really had no choice but to do better with concentration camps - though now history is rewritten.

I want to see a museum in every state of the European Union and Australia/NZ dedicated to the First Nations/Native Americans about their genocide, raw deal, life on the reservations, injustices, etc. Each museum needs a giant pile of old moccasins stained with tears.

[-]Tom_Bombadil0(+0|0)

Agreed on all points.

But I also disagree with myself. These things are not so simple.

The purpose of these museums has been hijacked. They're more about abusing later generations of the perpetrators, who had nothing to do with the events. These museums are much less about the actual victims, and more about perpetuating a victim status for people who were never involved.

Native American museums would probably be built behind the casinos.

The past should remain in the past, so the descendants of the survivors can rebuild and move on with their lives.

[-]x0x7
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I don't know all the details but is there potential reason to believe him? Them being lone survivors only depends on there being death. I'm critical of many of the claims about what the holocaust was but death did happen. And jews pretty commonly have small families. It doesn't take a lot of death to turn someone like that into a lone survivor. A war in general would do that. How many lone survivor Germans are there? A ton.

I just don't see it being a crazy claim.

[-]Tom_Bombadil1(+1|0)

Don't you find it a bit strange that orphaned children from a dubious historical event each pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and end up in (upper) middle class success.

Being an orphan is difficult enough, without the additional trauma. Yet we see remarkable success among this massive population of orphaned children.

Are you aware of the fact that the Holocaust isn't recorded as a historical event in any text books until the late 1960s. Don't take my word for it. Confirm this for yourself b in any encyclopedia that's published in 1965 or before.. You'll find the "Holocene" in it's place.

Of course, millions of people were starving in Germany in the final months of the war. This wasn't reported in the western press, until David Irving's "The Destruction of Dresden" was published in 1963, and the event was manufactured after his book was published, as a rebuttal. Because Dresden was firebombed as an innocent civilian target, and it didn't have any strategic value.

That's why the term holocaust was selected; it means "burnt offering" which was traditionally applied to human and animal sacrifices in biblical times. Sacrificed animals were burned after being sacrificed, to avoid accusations against the priests of keeping valuable meat, etc. Sacrifice rituals are expensive, and these priests are always been reasonably compensated. The concentration camps were accused of cremating millions of people. Millions...?

It took a few years to gain control of the remaining publishing companies, and update them with the new official history.

Kennedy was also assassinated in this same year (1963/11/22/). 6+3= 9 /11/...

As a result, an unexpected need was generated to produce many thousands of orphans, which were quickly conjured into existence.

The American Red Cross reported in 1948 an est. 290,000 died in total in the camps. This is occurred three full years after the end of the war in Europe, and the winners of the war have a tendency to bias against the losing side, so there's no reason to suspect it's a conservative estimate if fatalities. Eisenhower's goons even pillaged the local museums and colleges searching for artifacts of the massacres, and they included a south American shrunken head in the list of exhibits, which is an indication of the need for a narrative.

Similarly false reports were published about human skin lamp shades, and soap made from human fat, etc. These have all been debunked.

I can't say for certain about any specific individuals, but the probability of stability and success of two married orphaned children, and having one or more go on to receive PhDs, and prominence in a system of carefully managed censorship is dubious, at best.