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The new theme for movie nights is "exceptionally original filmmaking." With that we are laying the Cyberpunk theme to rest. And of
course, we need a nomination thread to make a big poll from.
I think this one will be a bit tricky. I'm not someone who knows what films were original in how they were produced. I think most of us don't. So we may be relying on the knowledgeable few to help us get a list going. But once that's out of the way, the poll that we get out of it will be easy to use for common folk like myself. But thankfully there is more than one way a film can be original so that may make things easier. Here are a few examples I could find.
With that little bit of help I got from some research we see there are a lot of ways a film can be original. Within each category there are many films that did something unique.
FYI, some folks like to get fancy with the formatting. I don't end up using that data myself in the poll because I get consistency from pulling the data from an API. So extra formatting can be nice for other people to look at, but the only data I ever use is the title and maybe a TMDB link. Keeping the films in English also helps.
For anyone who is new to this we meet on most Saturday nights to watch movies together, usually starting to meet just a bit before 8pm Eastern. We'll likely take a break this week to adjust to the theme change. But if you hang around this site you'll always catch any updates.
Mulholland Drive, 2001
8 1/2, 1963
Holy Motors, 2012
The Five Obstructions, 2003
Enter the Void, 2009
The Matrix, 1999
A Scanner Darkly. Sci fi, rotoscoping, comedy, drug abuse, Alex Jones... Shit delivers.
The Holy Mountain (1973) by Alejandro Jodorowsky is a film that's meant as a tool for the transfiguration of the audience. The narrative is very unconventional. It's based on Tarot and archetypes.
Inland Empire (2006) was the late David Lynch's latest feature film. It's a horror movie structured around The Shining. It's less coherent and linear than Mulholland Drive. It touches on transcendence.
2001: A Space Odyssey is what gets classically mentioned in this context and therefore deserves mention here but we shouldn't watch that as it's cliche now. At least, I suppose most of us have seen it already. If it, you should see it at least once.
Synecdoche, New York (2008) by Charlie Kaufman is about a man trying to document every single detail of his life in theatre form, and getting stuck in a loop where he tries to document his life as he was documenting it. Another film about transcendence.
Full Metal Jacket employs the three-act story structure in a creative way. The first two parts already feel like a complete story, but then it drags on to a markedly distinct third act. This creates a cognitive dissonance. The mental exhaustion one feels during the final act leaves the viewer open to being programmed at an emotional level.
Nightcrawler does sort of the inverse, although detailing it is kind of a spoiler. It has a cliffhanger ending not because of the narrative, but because of the film structure.
12 Monkeys has a great non-linear structure.
Impolex is an amateur film inspired by Gravity's Rainbow, but it tries to tell everything in 73 minutes. It feels more like some weird dream.
Audieu au Langage deserves mention although I didn't finish watching it at the time. Very incoherent story.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit was the first classic film that combined real life acting with animation to tell a deep story.
The Fountain is a sort of reincarnation romance that interweaves many different story lines. One of the few high-brow fantasy films.
Gummo consists of vignettes of wanton teenagers. All the actors are amateurs with no prior experience.
Persona by Ingmar Bergman is another film about archetypes.
Andrei Rublev (1966) by Andrei Tarkovsky employs extreme long shots to create an emotional effect in the viewer. A quote by the director gets at the heart of the matter: “If the regular length of a shot is increased, one becomes bored, but if you keep on making it longer, it piques your interest, and if you make it even longer, a new quality emerges, a special intensity of attention.”
Rashomon (1950) by Akira Kurosawa is a philosophical essay in film form. It tells the tale of a samurai who takes a bribe from a bandit, but it tells the story four times from the perspective of four different characters, and they're impossible to reconcile.
Waking Life by Richard Linklater employs the concept of lucid dreaming to talk about philosophy.
Interstellar illustrates the concept of the fifth dimension and plays with the concept of time.
Inception is about seeding an idea in someone's head through dreams. It interweaves three different storylines that all play out at different dream levels.
Memento deserves a mention too.
Great list!
Love your picks. Personally I've tried to watch Inland Empire all the way through its 4ish hours several times. Never could make it, it's a tough watch. I'm a huge David Lynch fan and love just about everything he's done. Even like his Dune though it's admittedly flawed.
Glad you like them. So I started watching Inland Empire too late when I was already starting to become sleepy. But it leaves the experience ruined if I quit halfway through. A film's made to be seen in one go. So for a change I decided to sit through it, the fatigue goes away after some time anyway. So on top of the film's innate incoherence, I was also too fatigued to pay attention during part of it. I have impressions, for sure. Somehow, this way of viewing it worked for this film as you don't end up being bored. It allowed me to watch it all the way to the end and without spoiling anything, I can tell you that it's very much worth it. The film plays with your emotions. Instead of a narrative it tries to communicate raw emotions to the viewer, even extreme ones.
Off the top of my head:
1917 (2019)
A "single take" (actually a few, cleverly stitched together) WWI movie with mostly real sets in a great narrative with heart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917_(2019_film)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8579674/ 8.2/10
Dave Made A Maze (2017)
A fun movie made with a low budget and a very creative premise and art department. Some of the writing and staging could have been better in parts. Worth seeing what some inventive people can do with almost nothing. Maybe watch at 1.5 speed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Made_a_Maze
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4457344 6.3/10
Dave Made A Maze is more creative with the set, but better writing is in Primer.
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)
Also interesting for creative sets, though I've never seen. Influenced goth stuff like Nightmare Before Christmas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cabinet_of_Dr._Caligari
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0010323/
Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead (1990)
A dramatic-comedy parallel side-story to Hamlet (WAAAAY better if you know how Hamlet goes), with a great (young) cast based on the good book/play by Tom Stoppard (Shakespeare In Love was not remotely as good).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosencrantz_%26_Guildenstern_Are_Dead_(film)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100519/ 7.3/10
I'll have more soon. Got to go to work.
Some more off the top of my head for our considerations:
Adult Swim Yule Log (2022)
If you liked Too Many Cooks then you'll like this movie. Very outside the box thinking went into this.
"What starts as a simple yule log feed devolves into a surrealist nightmare, as a couple and a group of podcasters spend the night in a double-booked cabin that is secretly occupied by evil and murderous forces."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Swim_Yule_Log
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24248198/ 6.3/10
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (1989)
Crime drama art film written and directed by Peter Greenaway. Dark and twisted and beautiful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cook%2C_the_Thief%2C_His_Wife_%26_Her_Lover
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097108/ 7.5/10
The Draughtsman's Contract (1982)
British period drama film, murder mystery, Peter Greenaway's first conventional feature film.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Draughtsman's_Contract
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083851/ 7.2/10
The Duelists (1977)
Another period drama where every scene looks like a painting - with realistic swashbuckling fights. After directing hundreds of television commercials, Ridley Scott's first feature film - the same year as Star Wars that changed everything - even Ridley who then directed Aliens, Bladerunner, Legend, and Gladiator, among many others. Would be a great double/triple feature with Barry Lyndon and/or The Draughtsman's Contract.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Duellists
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075968/ 7.4/10
The Holy Mountain (1973)
Never seen it but is sure to be interesting. This director made some other wild ones I haven't yet seen too. (Also powerfully visually weird but without a good narrative, by a different director, is the Cremaster series.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071615/ 7.7/10
The Qatsi Trilogy
American non-narrative documentary films directed and produced by Godfrey Reggio, featuring music by Philip Glass and cinematography by Ron Fricke, produced by Francis Ford Coppola and George Lucas, IIRC. These were massively influential to MTV, 80s/90s culture, and such. These are meditative documentaries that might not be good for our chat. The first two are good, the third was okay when it came out. We used to drop acid to watch these. While Koyaanisqatsi focused on modern life in industrial countries, Powaqqatsi, which similarly has no dialogue, focuses more on the conflict in Third World countries between traditional ways of life and the new ways of life introduced with industrialization.
Koyaanisqatsi (1982)
The title comes from the Hopi word koyaanisqatsi, meaning "life out of balance".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koyaanisqatsi
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085809/ 8.2/10
Powaqqatsi (1988)
The film's title is a Hopi neologism coined by Reggio meaning "parasitic way of life" or "life in transition".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powaqqatsi
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095895/ 7.2/10
Naqoyqatsi (2002)
The title comes from the Hopi word naqö̀yqatsi meaning "life of war". In the film's closing credits, the title is also translated as "civilized violence" and "a life of killing each other".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naqoyqatsi
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145937/ 6.4/10
Documentary director Ron Fricke...
Chronos (1985)
A meditative non-narrative documentary, focused on architecture and time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronos_(film)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088919/ 7.7/10
Baraka (1992)
A meditative non-narrative documentary, focused on spirituality, might be better to start with than the Qatsi series.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baraka_(film)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103767/ 8.5/10
Samsara (2011)
Like a sequel to Baraka.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsara_(2011_film)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0770802/ 8.4/10
Also...
Æon Flux (1991–1995 TV Series)
Amazon Women On The Moon (1987)
Arzak Rhapsody (2003 TV Mini Series) 7.1/10 Based on comics by artist/author Jean 'Moebius' Giraud.
Barbarella (1968)
Black Mirror: Bandersnatch (2018)
Blueberry: The Secret Experience (2004)
Children Of Men (2006)
Cleopatra (1963)
Dune (2021)
Dune: Part Two (2024)
Dune: Part Three (2026)
Fantasia (1940)
Fight Club (1999)
Forrest Gump (1994)
Head (1968)
Her (2013)
Mother! (2017)
Naked Lunch (1991)
Network (1976)
Pink Floyd – The Wall (1982)
Seven (1995)
The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen (1988)
The Man Who Planted Trees (1987)
The Tree Of Life (2011)
Wag The Dog (1997) A farcical look at crisis management, spin, manufactured events, predictive programming, and propaganda.
Winter Kills (1979)
Yellow Submarine (1968)
Okay I never delved that deep into filmmaking or what techniques are unique and rare so I'm just gonna recommend some unique films.
Bitch all you want about them.
Primer (2004) https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/14337-primer
Barry Lyndon (1975) I've heard a lot about the cinematography of this film and Ill never watch it unless it's in a group because Im not particularly interested in the premise
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/3175-barry-lyndon
Being John Malkovich (1999)
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/492-being-john-malkovich
Who Killed Captain Alex (2010)
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/316776-who-killed-captain-alex
Team America: World Police (2004)
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/3989-team-america-world-police
Wizards (1977)
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/16220-wizards
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist (2002)
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/11891-kung-pow-enter-the-fist
May add more later.
Unique is one thing, being good is another, ideally we'll find both in one. Exceptionally original.
Please compel us with reasons why you're recommending each.
Primer (2004)
Was good because it's got deep math/time-travel concepts in a not-stale script all shot with a very low budget and a cardboard box.
Barry Lyndon (1975)
A great classic novel - and is so beautifully shot by famous Stanley Kubrick that every shot is a painting. Drawbacks: It's VERY slow - like things were in olde days.
Being John Malkovich (1999)
A creative mindfuck script lofi directed by Spike Jones (the director, relation of Francis Ford Coppola, not the 1940s musician).
Who Killed Captain Alex (2010) 66%
Don't know anything about this.
Team America: World Police (2004)
Brilliant offensive comedy with marionettes by the creators of South Park (and another nomination, Orgazmo (1997)?)
Wizards (1977)
Animated fantasy by Ralph Bakshi, director of Fritz The Cat which might be a better nomination?
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist (2002)
Never saw this but IIRC, using clips from many other kung-fu movies, with an original script with overdubbing, and new footage to tie it all together, all mashed up into a fresh comedy. Great concept.
I had seen team america in theaters and at that time I thought it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen. Years later I put it on for friends after building it up but it was the cringiest unfunny thing ever. I just thought it was funny showing how tastes change over time. Subjective opinion so if anyone disagrees that's cool.
I can't swear to all of these being good (since there are a couple on the list that I've never seen)
I was at work when I compiled the list. Had meant to come back and add arguments
Who Killed Captain Alex is one such movie. I actually don't expect it to be good, but it technically is one of the first movies at all, let alone Action movies, to come out of Uganda. Made by a director with a less-than-shoestring budget using equipment many would consider to be literal garbage. Might be a decent 3rd feature in a night.
Kung Pow was seemingly created when an original "kung fu" style film from Asia was found without it's soundtrack. The original was supposed to be a serious movie, but with silly voiceover work, a few new scenes and characters added in, and creative re-editing, it became a comedy. Not so much a hit as a cult classic.
For Barry Lyndon I've heard that Kubrick leveraged his connections to "borrow" a/some very specific lenses from NASA enabling him to film in extremely low light, such as ambient candlelight
What always interested me about Wizards was the use of rotoscoping and old propaganda films to make a disquieting and jarring effect for the viewer.
Being John Malkovich has no right to be as good as it is. The premise is, all told, pretty silly. But phenomenal casting (including the titular Malkovich) make the movie both strangely funny and poignant.
Team America can be correctly called both funny and cringey, And the use of puppets in drama/comedy is not unknown (see also: The Thunderbirds) but it's far from overused.
(and I just realized this makes two "puppeteering" movies I've suggested here. I swear I'm not a puppeteer)
And Primer is a mind-bender of a movie that mainly takes place in......a storage facility? Clearly low budget, but also high-intellect. You don't understand what has happened after just one viewing. Extremely good movie, in my opinion.
There's much more to it about the lenses and the cameras - and everything else.
It's almost more interesting to learn more about the filmmaking, history, psychology, social context, and other Kubrick lore than watching the movies.
Funny how Barry Lyndon's cinematography is amazing but the moon landings are black and white and grainy, yup must be that great camera lense technology lol.
It makes one wonder: did Kubrick get help from NASA, or did NASA get help from Kubrick?
Dr. Mabuse the Gambler - Many film historians cite Fritz Lang's masterpiece as the founding father of the conspiracy film. It was the first major film to feature a shadowy criminal mastermind working behind the scenes to manipulate the global stock market, forge currency, and control society through mesmerism. It established the "shadowy organization" trope that defines the genre.
Here are all the movies we have so far with simplified formatting. The next step for me is to find all of the tmdb links for them (usually manually which is why I only change the themes rarely). I tried to see if chatgpt could do them in bulk but there were enough hallucinations that I had to not do that. I'm going to pick this up Monday, but if anyone happens to source more of the tmdb links for me I won't complain. It's easy for me to fold them in within vim.
1917 (2019) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/530915-1917
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/62-2001-a-space-odyssey
300 (2007) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1271-300
8½ (1963) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/422-8
Adult Swim Yule Log (2022) 63% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1060421-adult-swim-yule-log
Amazon Women On The Moon (1987) 59% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/5709-amazon-women-on-the-moon
Andrei Rublev (1966) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/895
A Scanner Darkly (2006) 68% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/3509-a-scanner-darkly
Audieu au Langage (Goodbye to Language) (2014) 60% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/114982-adieu-au-langage
Avatar (2009) 76% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/19995-avatar
Baraka (1992) 82% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/14002-baraka
Barbarella (1968) 60% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/8069-barbarella
Barry Lyndon (1975) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/3175-barry-lyndon
Being John Malkovich (1999) 74% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/492-being-john-malkovich
Black Mirror: Bandersnatch (2018) 68% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/569547-black-mirror-bandersnatch
Renegade (Blueberry: The Secret Experience) (2004) 48% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10046-blueberry
Boyhood (2014) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/85350-boyhood
Children Of Men (2006) 76% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/9693-children-of-men
Chronicle (2012) 68% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/76726-chronicle
Chronos (1985) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/18493-chronos
Cleopatra (1963) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/8095-cleopatra
Clerks (1994) 74% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/2292-clerks
Dave Made A Maze (2017) 64% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/433941-dave-made-a-maze
Dogville (2003) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/553-dogville
Donnie Darko (2001) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/141-donnie-darko
Dr. Mabuse the Gambler (1922) 76% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/5998-dr-mabuse-der-spieler
Dune (2021) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/438631-dune
Dune: Part Three (2026) %
Dune: Part Two (2024) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/693134-dune-part-two
Enter the Void (2010) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/34647-enter-the-void
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/38-eternal-sunshine-of-the-spotless-mind
Fantasia (1940) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/756-fantasia
Fight Club (1999) 84% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/550-fight-club
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001) 62% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/2114-final-fantasy-the-spirits-within
Forrest Gump (1994) 85% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/13-forrest-gump
Full Metal Jacket (1987) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/600-full-metal-jacket
Gravity (2013) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/49047-gravity
Gummo (1997) 66% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/18415-gummo
Head (1968) 62% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/18193-head (written by Jack Nicholson)
Her (2013) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/152601-her
Holy Motors (2012) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/103328-holy-motors
Impolex (2009) 51% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/121131-impolex
I'm Thinking of Ending Things (2020) 66% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/500840-i-m-thinking-of-ending-things
Inception (2010) 84% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/27205-inception
Inland Empire (2006) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1730-inland-empire
Interstellar (2014) 85% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/157336-interstellar
I Saw the TV Glow (2024) 61% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/858017-i-saw-the-tv-glow
It Follows (2015) 66% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/270303-it-follows
Koyaanisqatsi (1982) 79% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/11314-koyaanisqatsi
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist (2002) 64% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/11891-kung-pow-enter-the-fist
La La Land (2016) 79% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/313369-la-la-land
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/100-lock-stock-and-two-smoking-barrels
Loving Vincent (2017) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/339877-loving-vincent
Melancholia (2011) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/62215-melancholia
Memento (2000) 82% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/77-memento
Midsommar (2019) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/530385-midsommar
Mother! (2017) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/381283-mother
Mulholland Drive (2001) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1018-mulholland-drive
Naked Lunch (1991) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/2742-naked-lunch
Naqoyqatsi (2002) 61% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/21925-naqoyqatsi
Network (1976) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10774-network
Nightcrawler (2014) 77% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/242582-nightcrawler
Persona (1966) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/797-persona
Pink Floyd – The Wall (1982) 79% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/12104-pink-floyd-the-wall
Powaqqatsi (1988) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/24348-powaqqatsi
Primer (2004) 68% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/14337-primer
Rashomon (1950) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/548
Reservoir Dogs (1992) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/500-reservoir-dogs
Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead (1990) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/18971-rosencrantz-guildenstern-are-dead
Run Lola Run (1998) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/104-lola-rennt
Russian Ark (2002) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/16646
Samsara (2011) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/89708-samsara
Se7en (1995) 84% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/807-se7en
Sherlock Holmes (2009) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10528-sherlock-holmes
Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows (2011) 71% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/58574-sherlock-holmes-a-game-of-shadows
Sin City (2005) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/187-sin-city
Snatch (2000) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/107-snatch
Sorcerer (1977) 74% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/38985-sorcerer
Swiss Army Man (2016) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/347031-swiss-army-man
Synecdoche, New York (2008) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/4960-synecdoche-new-york
Tangerine (2015) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/308084-tangerine
Team America: World Police (2004) 67% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/3989-team-america-world-police
The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen (1988) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/14506-the-adventures-of-baron-munchausen
The Artist (2011) 74% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/74643-the-artist
The Blair Witch Project (1999) 64% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/2667-the-blair-witch-project
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920) 79% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/234-das-cabinet-des-dr-caligari
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (1989) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/7452-the-cook-the-thief-his-wife-her-lover
The Draughtsman's Contract (1982) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10831-the-draughtsman-s-contract
The Duellists (1977) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/19067-the-duellists
The Favourite (2018) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/375262-the-favourite
The Five Obstructions (2003) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/12456-de-fem-benspaend
The Fountain (2006) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1381-the-fountain
The Holy Mountain (1973) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/8327-la-montana-sagrada
The Man Who Planted Trees (1987) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/49565-l-homme-qui-plantait-des-arbres
The Matrix (1999) 82% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/603-the-matrix
The Tree Of Life (2011) 67% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/8967-the-tree-of-life
The Truman Show (1998) 82% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/37165-the-truman-show
Timecode (2016) 71% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/398395-timecode
Toy Story (1995) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/862-toy-story
Twelve Monkeys (1995) 76% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/63-twelve-monkeys
Victoria (2016) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/67419-victoria
Wag The Dog (1997) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/586-wag-the-dog
Waking Life (2001) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/9081-waking-life
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/856-who-framed-roger-rabbit
Who Killed Captain Alex (2010) 66% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/316776-who-killed-captain-alex
Winter Kills (1979) 58% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/42178-winter-kills
Wizards (1977) 62% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/16220-wizards
Yellow Submarine (1968) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/12105-yellow-submarine
Very nice. I got the poll created thanks to that. I hope you didn't spend too much time formatting and sorting that because code was going to do that automatically. And ironically I have to strip out all the extra information to get it to do that.
Amazing list. Here they are, ranked:
Forrest Gump (1994) 85% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/13-forrest-gump
Interstellar (2014) 85% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/157336-interstellar
Fight Club (1999) 84% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/550-fight-club
Inception (2010) 84% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/27205-inception
Se7en (1995) 84% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/807-se7en
Baraka (1992) 82% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/14002-baraka
Memento (2000) 82% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/77-memento
The Matrix (1999) 82% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/603-the-matrix
The Truman Show (1998) 82% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/37165-the-truman-show
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/62-2001-a-space-odyssey
8½ (1963) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/422-8
Dune: Part Two (2024) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/693134-dune-part-two
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/38-eternal-sunshine-of-the-spotless-mind
Full Metal Jacket (1987) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/600-full-metal-jacket
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/100-lock-stock-and-two-smoking-barrels
Persona (1966) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/797-persona
Reservoir Dogs (1992) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/500-reservoir-dogs
Samsara (2011) 81% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/89708-samsara
1917 (2019) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/530915-1917
Andrei Rublev (1966) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/895
Barry Lyndon (1975) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/3175-barry-lyndon
Loving Vincent (2017) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/339877-loving-vincent
Rashomon (1950) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/548
The Man Who Planted Trees (1987) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/49565-l-homme-qui-plantait-des-arbres
Toy Story (1995) 80% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/862-toy-story
Koyaanisqatsi (1982) 79% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/11314-koyaanisqatsi
La La Land (2016) 79% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/313369-la-la-land
Pink Floyd – The Wall (1982) 79% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/12104-pink-floyd-the-wall
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920) 79% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/234-das-cabinet-des-dr-caligari
Dogville (2003) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/553-dogville
Donnie Darko (2001) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/141-donnie-darko
Dune (2021) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/438631-dune
Her (2013) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/152601-her
Mulholland Drive (2001) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1018-mulholland-drive
Network (1976) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10774-network
Snatch (2000) 78% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/107-snatch
Nightcrawler (2014) 77% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/242582-nightcrawler
Avatar (2009) 76% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/19995-avatar
Children Of Men (2006) 76% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/9693-children-of-men
Dr. Mabuse the Gambler (1922) 76% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/5998-dr-mabuse-der-spieler
Twelve Monkeys (1995) 76% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/63-twelve-monkeys
Boyhood (2014) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/85350-boyhood
Chronos (1985) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/18493-chronos
Sin City (2005) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/187-sin-city
Synecdoche, New York (2008) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/4960-synecdoche-new-york
The Favourite (2018) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/375262-the-favourite
The Holy Mountain (1973) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/8327-la-montana-sagrada
Waking Life (2001) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/9081-waking-life
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) 75% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/856-who-framed-roger-rabbit
Being John Malkovich (1999) 74% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/492-being-john-malkovich
Clerks (1994) 74% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/2292-clerks
Sorcerer (1977) 74% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/38985-sorcerer
The Artist (2011) 74% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/74643-the-artist
Dune: Part Three (2026) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/90228-dune-prophecy
Enter the Void (2010) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/34647-enter-the-void
Fantasia (1940) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/756-fantasia
Powaqqatsi (1988) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/24348-powaqqatsi
Run Lola Run (1998) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/104-lola-rennt
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (1989) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/7452-the-cook-the-thief-his-wife-her-lover
Victoria (2016) 73% https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/67419-victoria
300 (2007) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1271-300
Gravity (2013) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/49047-gravity
Melancholia (2011) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/62215-melancholia
Midsommar (2019) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/530385-midsommar
Russian Ark (2002) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/16646
Sherlock Holmes (2009) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10528-sherlock-holmes
The Duellists (1977) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/19067-the-duellists
Yellow Submarine (1968) 72% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/12105-yellow-submarine
Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows (2011) 71% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/58574-sherlock-holmes-a-game-of-shadows
Timecode (2016) 71% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/398395-timecode
Cleopatra (1963) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/8095-cleopatra
Holy Motors (2012) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/103328-holy-motors
Inland Empire (2006) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1730-inland-empire
Mother! (2017) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/381283-mother
Naked Lunch (1991) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/2742-naked-lunch
The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen (1988) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/14506-the-adventures-of-baron-munchausen
The Draughtsman's Contract (1982) 70% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10831-the-draughtsman-s-contract
Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead (1990) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/18971-rosencrantz-guildenstern-are-dead
Swiss Army Man (2016) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/347031-swiss-army-man
Tangerine (2015) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/308084-tangerine
The Five Obstructions (2003) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/12456-de-fem-benspaend
The Fountain (2006) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1381-the-fountain
Wag The Dog (1997) 69% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/586-wag-the-dog
A Scanner Darkly (2006) 68% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/3509-a-scanner-darkly
Black Mirror: Bandersnatch (2018) 68% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/569547-black-mirror-bandersnatch
Chronicle (2012) 68% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/76726-chronicle
Primer (2004) 68% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/14337-primer
Team America: World Police (2004) 67% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/3989-team-america-world-police
The Tree Of Life (2011) 67% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/8967-the-tree-of-life
Gummo (1997) 66% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/18415-gummo
I'm Thinking of Ending Things (2020) 66% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/500840-i-m-thinking-of-ending-things
It Follows (2015) 66% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/270303-it-follows
Who Killed Captain Alex (2010) 66% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/316776-who-killed-captain-alex
Dave Made A Maze (2017) 64% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/433941-dave-made-a-maze
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist (2002) 64% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/11891-kung-pow-enter-the-fist
The Blair Witch Project (1999) 64% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/2667-the-blair-witch-project
Adult Swim Yule Log (2022) 63% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1060421-adult-swim-yule-log
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001) 62% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/2114-final-fantasy-the-spirits-within
Head (1968) 62% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/18193-head (written by Jack Nicholson)
Wizards (1977) 62% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/16220-wizards
I Saw the TV Glow (2024) 61% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/858017-i-saw-the-tv-glow
Naqoyqatsi (2002) 61% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/21925-naqoyqatsi
Audieu au Langage (Goodbye to Language)(2014) 60% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/114982-adieu-au-langage
Barbarella (1968) 60% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/8069-barbarella
Amazon Women On The Moon (1987) 59% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/5709-amazon-women-on-the-moon
Winter Kills (1979) 58% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/42178-winter-kills
Impolex (2009) 51% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/121131-impolex
Renegade (Blueberry: The Secret Experience)(2004) 48% https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/10046-blueberry
Thanks!
Worth reposting to the new pol: https://goatmatrix.net/c/Movies/Ci7uTBZP3Z
I've asked some people around me, so I haven't seen all of these, but here's a few that haven't been mentioned yet in this thread:
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001) was the first feature-length film to use entirely CGI motion-captured virtual actors in a photorealistic manner.
Toy Story (1995) was the first movie to be fully computer-animated, and I believe it's an enjoyable movie for adults and children alike.
The Blair Witch Project (1999) while not the first found-footage film, it was the first to be massively successful and thus became the benchmark.
Some other movies that feel very original in the narrative to me:
I Saw the TV Glow (2024)
I'm Thinking of Ending Things (2020)
Swiss Army Man (2016)
It Follows (2014)
Donnie Darko (2001)
Reservoir Dogs (1992)
Melancholia (2011)
Midsommer (2019)
Chronicle (2012)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
The Truman Show (1998)
Here is a suggestion, the movie sorcerer by William friedkin, one of my favorites
It's a good one. Has nothing to do with wizardry. Was overshadowed by Star Wars that year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorcerer_(film) (1977)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076740/ 7.7/10
French
I know English is preferred, but IMO there are 3 exceptionally original movies worth considering - all directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro for the first two.
Delicatessen (1991)
Twisted cinematic dystopian cast of dynamic characters in weaving plots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delicatessen_(1991_film)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101700/ 7.5/10
The City of Lost Children (1995)
Gorgeous original inventive sci-fi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_of_Lost_Children
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112682/ 7.4/10
Amélie (2002)
A quaint quirky rom-com with charm, beautiful cinematography, amazing character, and fun narrative tributaries that all wrap up in a satisfying ending that leaves you wanting more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amélie
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/ 8.3/10
Also:
Cyrano De Bergerac
Tous Les Matins Du Monde
I absolutely love Amelie and have wanted an excuse to watch it again.
Me too! I'm not into most rom-coms but another guilty pleasure of mine is Emma (1996).
I regret not copypastaing all my InfoGalactic content while I could still copy the code. At least I got a few lists, though long outdated and now copied without the movie posters:
https://projex.wiki/wiki/Recommended_dystopian_movies_and_series
https://projex.wiki/wiki/Recommended_false_flag_movies_and_series
https://projex.wiki/wiki/Recommended_red_pill_movies_and_series
Try archive.org.
Yes, most of it is archived. But it's static. The wiki-code contains all the formatting, including references, that would have to be redone. I doubt there's a plugin for that.
I bet there is. Search html to wiki formatting. Someone has done something with that before. It exists for Markdown, pug. Oh, also an LLM could do that conversion.
Neat idea.
It might be neat to archive "normal" stuff on the wiki too.
Ah yes. That sucks ass. It's one of the fundamental flaws with the WWW that data don't have redundant copies and that it gets shared in the form of HTML which is inaccessible. Ideally we have something like Markdown or Wikitext shared in a decentralized network where every node is uniquely addressable and has redundant copies. That'd be more in line with Ted Nelson's original vision for the Internet. Rendering engines would be simple to write as well. We got the nerf'd Berners Lee version instead.
Get that going on IPFS or the dark web instead?
IPFS has permanence but the addresses don't refer to changing copies. Instead it remains stuck at whatever revision it uses. This way, you can't have an evolving wiki that interlinks, or an evolving web for that matter. It's more like file storage. I'm also not sure if it supports any type of dynamic content. Zeronet works for dynamic content. There's a fork of it, so check that out, as well as a fork of the now defunct Beaker browser.
Dark web is an umbrella term. If you mean the onion network by that: that still uses a server-client model.
Yes.
We're going to need alternatives. Yesterday. They want to shut down/control the Interwebs.
Why not make one that's like the original nerfed vision? Whether a hybrid in one or a fusion of many - as long as it works and is free/libre.
It's a big project. Can you program it?
I wish I could code.
I'm meant for other things.
So IPFS isn't perfect but it would in fact be good if we start using that. For our next write-ups we can still do text posts but create a backup on IPFS and include the link here. You could backup your wiki articles to IPFS. And create a new document on IPFS that provides an overview of those articles. You'd effectively create a permanent snapshot of your wiki, it will stay even if your wiki goes down. Are you up for that?
15 Perfectly Puzzling Movies To Solve (27:48) ~ YesterVerse
Good comments section recommendations too.
"Mind Fuck Movies" and/or "Intellectual Movies" might be good themes/genres to add.
In order of appearance in the video above:
Exceptionally original animation
IN-SHADOW - A Modern Odyssey - Animated Short Film (13:00) ~ IN-SHADOW
The Man Who Planted Trees (30:08) CBC
** https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Planted_Trees
The Fly - Oscar Short Animated Film (1980) (3:01) Ferenc Rofusz
** My exgirlfriend almost dropped his Oscar because it was surprisingly heavy. Ferenc Rofusz was Hungarian, IIRC, moved to Oakville, Ontario.
Do we know tonight's Movie so I can post it on VOAT/UPVOAT?
Do we know tonight's Movie so I can post it on VOAT/UPVOAT?