I might re-purpose it. I'm thinking about launching many instances of this. Part of the initial idea of this site was to avoid silo-ing overy like-minded people into segregated websites. But it is true that I basically can't market this site to any anti-racist people (I'm as much to blame for that).
So one idea is to have many instances that start off separate and then slowly start merging the user-bases. Sort of like finding the hyper-gradient between federated and distinct websites. Or finding a gradient within a super-set of the two concepts.
I want this to be a software where people who otherwise couldn't get along on the same website can still use it, but people in between who could get along with both have access to a larger userbase. Many sites do that by having you build your own set of interactable users (facebook). I think that's kind of lame. The idea of a forum is you immediately can interact with a large number of people within a community where all of them interact. All without having people spam each other to be added by others. Maybe in theory the post positions can do that, but not without some initial help from me if I want to be able to merge userbases like voat and lemmy.
So basically a new site would start in a completely different space. Then you merge them but initialize the users in two completely different ballparks within the same space. You make it so all sorts have some degree of proximity in them mandatory. Maybe you even make it so seeing something beyond a certain distance is impossible. Then you slowly start pushing these populations together till at least some of the users of one can see the posts from the other. You can think of it like two sphere where in each there is a side that has cross interaction. If the initial people in that group don't like seeing the other site's content they will downvote it and move themselves out of that zone of cross interaction. Eventually the two spheres will align themselves internally with that dipole. Now you are ready to start merging them closer.
IDK. It's all a conspiracy I haven't fully formulated. The point is I might be interested in buying a lot of domains. Making full use of the two I've got isn't bad. That or using referrer slugs that will help me identify what marketing campaign the user was from.
Part of the Cassandra Team vision was to set up at least 2 Lemmy sites. One for free-speech and timesuck, the other for elevated discourse without rude noise. Shitty people could dwell in the gutter and those who could behave could use both. Being decentralized Lemmy, folks could chose to see other stuff or stay in their silo.
The federation has obvious issues, almost like it was designed to be bipolar. Just as there's the woke-tolerant we also wanted to develop the Fringe Deplorables Federation/Network/WebRing.
IMO, ideally, rather than admins, a user would get to chose what other Lemmy sites and/or topics/spaces showed up in their feed.
Selfishly, I'd say make one for my Windsor, Ontario, and Canadian freedom folks, but I can't guarantee any would bother. I don't know anyone IRL who uses Reddit, SaidIt, etc. They're all Facebook or don't bother - or a few use Friendevu, Librti, or NextDoor. I'm thinking of actually trying Unjected out and trying the Autonomy course with Richard Grove - which means diving into that community - but all that takes time. And then I also want to delve into MediaWiki, HumHub, PeerTube, and WikiSpooks communities more. Again, no time. Especially when trying to do stuff locally. As of last night we're planning another protest on the 19th - which means I should try to finish all my local projects for then. And then the May WE Awake event will be on us sooner than we imagine. But I digress.
If it's possible to set up mirror sites with little effort, perhaps it's worth the experiment. I'm still squatting on many potentially good domains. MapleFringe, TruthSeeker, etc. http://Projex.Wiki/wiki/User:JasonCarswell/Internet_domains
I don't fully understand your third paragraph explaining the interactable users and community. Maybe it might be good in a separate visionary post.
In your fourth paragraph, if you meant to expose folks to each other via (not corrupt-technocracy) algorithms, I've dreamed of that forever - along with algorithm transparency, tweakability, and easy user-controls. Most importantly in the culture folks would need to understand their curating votes actually matter and influence their feeds so effective participation would be necessary. Unfortunately too many are too stupid/lazy. Sure you could try to bribe them with a credit system, but without earned trust in a strong community that won't last long or be free from abuse or corruption.
Still, I like the idea. A "politics" site and a "gamer" site wouldn't seem to have too much overlap but there would be some. Or maybe they also overlap with other generalized sites like "science", "sports", "tech", "DIY", "remedies", "arts", "media", etc. Enough to be distinct, like alpha levels, and let the overlapping and sub-levels ensue.
Not sure if buying a bunch of domains is necessary, though I suppose if they're cheap like with .xyz or whatever. IIRC there were a bunch of .win sites that had different foci. Also, what you've done with Gvid makes sense with the prefix sub-domain, though I don't see the appeal of "Gvid" as I don't know what it even refers to. Like it or not I know what a goat is.
There's certainly no shortage of stuff to do in the meantime so you have time to figure it all out. Though by some counts you have until 2030 when the Internet dies.
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But there is currently a redirect that makes that impossible. I will turn that redirect off sometime soon though.
The redirect actually seems good to me, it makes people move to the new domain. I just mean that I still type matrix.gvid.tv in my address bar.
Agreed it's good, though I don't type it.
IMO, the redirect should exist for as long as you own Matrix.Gvid.TV, unless you have new purpose for it.
Perhaps more critically - Why turn it off?
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I might re-purpose it. I'm thinking about launching many instances of this. Part of the initial idea of this site was to avoid silo-ing overy like-minded people into segregated websites. But it is true that I basically can't market this site to any anti-racist people (I'm as much to blame for that).
So one idea is to have many instances that start off separate and then slowly start merging the user-bases. Sort of like finding the hyper-gradient between federated and distinct websites. Or finding a gradient within a super-set of the two concepts.
I want this to be a software where people who otherwise couldn't get along on the same website can still use it, but people in between who could get along with both have access to a larger userbase. Many sites do that by having you build your own set of interactable users (facebook). I think that's kind of lame. The idea of a forum is you immediately can interact with a large number of people within a community where all of them interact. All without having people spam each other to be added by others. Maybe in theory the post positions can do that, but not without some initial help from me if I want to be able to merge userbases like voat and lemmy.
So basically a new site would start in a completely different space. Then you merge them but initialize the users in two completely different ballparks within the same space. You make it so all sorts have some degree of proximity in them mandatory. Maybe you even make it so seeing something beyond a certain distance is impossible. Then you slowly start pushing these populations together till at least some of the users of one can see the posts from the other. You can think of it like two sphere where in each there is a side that has cross interaction. If the initial people in that group don't like seeing the other site's content they will downvote it and move themselves out of that zone of cross interaction. Eventually the two spheres will align themselves internally with that dipole. Now you are ready to start merging them closer.
IDK. It's all a conspiracy I haven't fully formulated. The point is I might be interested in buying a lot of domains. Making full use of the two I've got isn't bad. That or using referrer slugs that will help me identify what marketing campaign the user was from.
Please make a "save" option. I like to look back at good conversations.
I like all that!!!
Part of the Cassandra Team vision was to set up at least 2 Lemmy sites. One for free-speech and timesuck, the other for elevated discourse without rude noise. Shitty people could dwell in the gutter and those who could behave could use both. Being decentralized Lemmy, folks could chose to see other stuff or stay in their silo.
The federation has obvious issues, almost like it was designed to be bipolar. Just as there's the woke-tolerant we also wanted to develop the Fringe Deplorables Federation/Network/WebRing.
IMO, ideally, rather than admins, a user would get to chose what other Lemmy sites and/or topics/spaces showed up in their feed.
Selfishly, I'd say make one for my Windsor, Ontario, and Canadian freedom folks, but I can't guarantee any would bother. I don't know anyone IRL who uses Reddit, SaidIt, etc. They're all Facebook or don't bother - or a few use Friendevu, Librti, or NextDoor. I'm thinking of actually trying Unjected out and trying the Autonomy course with Richard Grove - which means diving into that community - but all that takes time. And then I also want to delve into MediaWiki, HumHub, PeerTube, and WikiSpooks communities more. Again, no time. Especially when trying to do stuff locally. As of last night we're planning another protest on the 19th - which means I should try to finish all my local projects for then. And then the May WE Awake event will be on us sooner than we imagine. But I digress.
If it's possible to set up mirror sites with little effort, perhaps it's worth the experiment. I'm still squatting on many potentially good domains. MapleFringe, TruthSeeker, etc. http://Projex.Wiki/wiki/User:JasonCarswell/Internet_domains
I'd even be happy to have WEFreedom.ca be a forum - as long as there were links to the Projex.Wiki projects in the header or top of the sidebox. It's already got a logo (https://Projex.Wiki/wiki/File:WEFreedom.ca_Logo_v3.png).
I don't fully understand your third paragraph explaining the interactable users and community. Maybe it might be good in a separate visionary post.
In your fourth paragraph, if you meant to expose folks to each other via (not corrupt-technocracy) algorithms, I've dreamed of that forever - along with algorithm transparency, tweakability, and easy user-controls. Most importantly in the culture folks would need to understand their curating votes actually matter and influence their feeds so effective participation would be necessary. Unfortunately too many are too stupid/lazy. Sure you could try to bribe them with a credit system, but without earned trust in a strong community that won't last long or be free from abuse or corruption.
Still, I like the idea. A "politics" site and a "gamer" site wouldn't seem to have too much overlap but there would be some. Or maybe they also overlap with other generalized sites like "science", "sports", "tech", "DIY", "remedies", "arts", "media", etc. Enough to be distinct, like alpha levels, and let the overlapping and sub-levels ensue.
Not sure if buying a bunch of domains is necessary, though I suppose if they're cheap like with .xyz or whatever. IIRC there were a bunch of .win sites that had different foci. Also, what you've done with Gvid makes sense with the prefix sub-domain, though I don't see the appeal of "Gvid" as I don't know what it even refers to. Like it or not I know what a goat is.
There's certainly no shortage of stuff to do in the meantime so you have time to figure it all out. Though by some counts you have until 2030 when the Internet dies.
For new folks Matrix.Gvid.TV is now GoatMatrix.net.