Ruqqus started in 2019 but saw it's first take off in 2020. It's run was pretty sort, ending in 2021. What made them lose motivation to keep the project going?
This, of course, didn't last, and leading up to Voat's downfall, the fun, casually racist users began to be edged out by people whose entire identity is predicated on "hates coloreds and jews and gays." A trickle became a flood. Then the election happened, and the dam broke, and they were everywhere.
The formerly libertarian userbase began to leave, because suddenly there was nothing but race-centric content everywhere all the time forever. @Milkit exiled every user who wasn't race-obsessed from his racist guilds. Exiled users are unable to vote, so the frontpage became a 24/7 deluge of unfunny boomer-tier self-identified-Nazi garbage since there was no way of lowering it, and those users would downvote everything not from those guilds.
In the end, identity politics makes it impossible for a site to go forward. It gets that one hit of a user base and that's it. It shouldn't be that way, because free speech at all. But it is. So then any identity movement becomes self defeating. Platforms have to kick them off even if they would be sympathetic toward their speech. The decision of identity movements to adopt an asshole vibe was a strategic misstep that basically put a nail in the coffin of any issue they actually care about.
I have a theory that there are really two different populations and movements that adopted each other. Originally in one group would have people who care about identity issues. They have a mix of personalities. In another group you have assholes. They don't really have a political identity. The identitarians said, hmm, we need more people for our cause. Let's grab those people over there. The assholes said, we need a cause to mask our behavior online. Then the two got married as a paired ideology. A political ideology and a social ideology.
So then it isn't clear when talking to someone is they are a race advocate who adopted assholism because everyone else was doing it, or an asshole who adopted race advocacy because everyone else was doing it and it seemed fun.
Huge mistake for anyone who actually cares about an identity issue. Because now your advocacy is associated with a massive liability for any site its expressed on. Not just by normie brainwashing, bad racism is bad. But by associations people have experienced and developed themselves.
Anyone who cares about any movement, and actually cares about it, should be very careful to not be a liability for the platforms they are on. But 90% of racists don't want to do that. They want to fuck shit up and not care. So every site they go onto, bam, dead project.
So 99% percent of smart platforms won't let them on. Not because they are anti-white platforms. But because those platforms want mature people as a base they can grow from. And as a result of their general behavior white advocacy has to be pushed onto the fringes of the internet. Some will theorize that there is a conspiracy against them. That could be argued to be true. But they certainly didn't help themselves with any kind of deep thought about how X is connected to Y. They lack meditation. Of course they do. They are assholes reacting to things on the internet. They don't meditate for shit. So they are useless for anything they want to do.
Thus, IMO, it's a waste of time to keep posting instances of criminality affecting small numbers (and hate) when there is a multi-front war on humanity with far more important waves of terror and tyranny we should actually focus on, know about, find solutions for, and prepare with.
A log line (aka, elevator pitch) for Goat Matrix might be worth drafting to clarify what the goals here are. And in the same manner that we used to point at the Pyramid Of Debate (good, but lacking), we can point to the short mission statement overview (with more clarity). As more than just a defense strategy, or something for the new folks, it could be our touchstone motto and the foundation used for promotion, PR, and media. As I say about the media I'm developing - it has to be clear, concise, and catchy.
I didn't use Ruqqus much, but I think the OP of second post ("carpathianflorist") is some well-known lefty troll (from rdrama I think?) so he could be exaggerating things. Still interesting perspective, worthy of reading.
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A couple of relevant posts:
https://archive.is/Z31HD
https://archive.is/H8e7f
Racists took over r/Ferguson and got the subreddit banned. It was about Ferguson and how to rebuild after the riots over Mike Brown.
In the end, identity politics makes it impossible for a site to go forward. It gets that one hit of a user base and that's it. It shouldn't be that way, because free speech at all. But it is. So then any identity movement becomes self defeating. Platforms have to kick them off even if they would be sympathetic toward their speech. The decision of identity movements to adopt an asshole vibe was a strategic misstep that basically put a nail in the coffin of any issue they actually care about.
I have a theory that there are really two different populations and movements that adopted each other. Originally in one group would have people who care about identity issues. They have a mix of personalities. In another group you have assholes. They don't really have a political identity. The identitarians said, hmm, we need more people for our cause. Let's grab those people over there. The assholes said, we need a cause to mask our behavior online. Then the two got married as a paired ideology. A political ideology and a social ideology.
So then it isn't clear when talking to someone is they are a race advocate who adopted assholism because everyone else was doing it, or an asshole who adopted race advocacy because everyone else was doing it and it seemed fun.
Huge mistake for anyone who actually cares about an identity issue. Because now your advocacy is associated with a massive liability for any site its expressed on. Not just by normie brainwashing, bad racism is bad. But by associations people have experienced and developed themselves.
Anyone who cares about any movement, and actually cares about it, should be very careful to not be a liability for the platforms they are on. But 90% of racists don't want to do that. They want to fuck shit up and not care. So every site they go onto, bam, dead project.
So 99% percent of smart platforms won't let them on. Not because they are anti-white platforms. But because those platforms want mature people as a base they can grow from. And as a result of their general behavior white advocacy has to be pushed onto the fringes of the internet. Some will theorize that there is a conspiracy against them. That could be argued to be true. But they certainly didn't help themselves with any kind of deep thought about how X is connected to Y. They lack meditation. Of course they do. They are assholes reacting to things on the internet. They don't meditate for shit. So they are useless for anything they want to do.
Perhaps relevant, is what I just wrote:
A log line (aka, elevator pitch) for Goat Matrix might be worth drafting to clarify what the goals here are. And in the same manner that we used to point at the Pyramid Of Debate (good, but lacking), we can point to the short mission statement overview (with more clarity). As more than just a defense strategy, or something for the new folks, it could be our touchstone motto and the foundation used for promotion, PR, and media. As I say about the media I'm developing - it has to be clear, concise, and catchy.
I didn't use Ruqqus much, but I think the OP of second post ("carpathianflorist") is some well-known lefty troll (from rdrama I think?) so he could be exaggerating things. Still interesting perspective, worthy of reading.